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		<title>By: Noob</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Damon..

I appreciate the help and swift reply :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Damon..</p>
<p>I appreciate the help and swift reply <img src="https://thestudiofiles.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley" /> </p>
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		<title>By: Damon Sink</title>
		<link>https://thestudiofiles.com/?p=26&#038;cpage=1#comment-230</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sure--

Bouncing is simply the process of combining all of your tracks, incorporating edits and mix settings into a single stereo file. You accomplish it with your digital audio workstation software (like Pro Tools or Logic). When you send the stereo mix out to another device like 2-track tape or a hard disk recorder, it&#039;s usually called &quot;mixing&quot; and has to happen in real time because there is one device creating the mix and a second receiving and &quot;printing&quot; it to a different medium. Bouncing can happen faster than it would take to do it live, depending on the speed of your computer and the complexity of the project (numbers of plugins utilized in the mix, primarily).

Damon
The Studio Files]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure&#8211;</p>
<p>Bouncing is simply the process of combining all of your tracks, incorporating edits and mix settings into a single stereo file. You accomplish it with your digital audio workstation software (like Pro Tools or Logic). When you send the stereo mix out to another device like 2-track tape or a hard disk recorder, it&#8217;s usually called &#8220;mixing&#8221; and has to happen in real time because there is one device creating the mix and a second receiving and &#8220;printing&#8221; it to a different medium. Bouncing can happen faster than it would take to do it live, depending on the speed of your computer and the complexity of the project (numbers of plugins utilized in the mix, primarily).</p>
<p>Damon<br />
The Studio Files</p>
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		<title>By: Noob</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi..

Apologies for the noob question but can someone explain stereo bouncing to me please?

Is it something that you can do live or does it have to be done with editing equipment...if so, what kinda thing would I need.

Thanks for any help.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi..</p>
<p>Apologies for the noob question but can someone explain stereo bouncing to me please?</p>
<p>Is it something that you can do live or does it have to be done with editing equipment&#8230;if so, what kinda thing would I need.</p>
<p>Thanks for any help.</p>
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		<title>By: ConnorSmith</title>
		<link>https://thestudiofiles.com/?p=26&#038;cpage=1#comment-35</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ConnorSmith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 21:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A lot of people forgot about that :)

I would remember this no matter what you are tracking.  Its good for EVERYTHING.  If you have the option to edit before, at, or after a transition, chances are you will find a spot that works.  If you don&#039;t leave yourself that wiggle-room, you can get into some sticky editing situaitons.

C
The Studio Files]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of people forgot about that <img src="https://thestudiofiles.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley" /> </p>
<p>I would remember this no matter what you are tracking.  Its good for EVERYTHING.  If you have the option to edit before, at, or after a transition, chances are you will find a spot that works.  If you don&#8217;t leave yourself that wiggle-room, you can get into some sticky editing situaitons.</p>
<p>C<br />
The Studio Files</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 19:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, I completely forgot about playing through a little bit to the next part.  Crossfading the exact same part works alot better than trying to crossfade transitions with emptiness on the other end.

I have to do the edit between a few parts.  One part, the last thing I hit was the snare and open hi hat.  The hi hat decay needs to bleed into the next part.  The other parts are similar situations.  

I&#039;ll experiment with different crossfades first.  They don&#039;t sound awful right now, but it&#039;s noticeable that there is an edit.  If I ever considered myself good at something in recording, it was editing.  I&#039;ll figure something out.  You&#039;ve helped plenty and I should be able to make it work from here. 

I&#039;m laying down another drum track today, and if I have to split it, I&#039;ll make sure to play through.

Thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I completely forgot about playing through a little bit to the next part.  Crossfading the exact same part works alot better than trying to crossfade transitions with emptiness on the other end.</p>
<p>I have to do the edit between a few parts.  One part, the last thing I hit was the snare and open hi hat.  The hi hat decay needs to bleed into the next part.  The other parts are similar situations.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll experiment with different crossfades first.  They don&#8217;t sound awful right now, but it&#8217;s noticeable that there is an edit.  If I ever considered myself good at something in recording, it was editing.  I&#8217;ll figure something out.  You&#8217;ve helped plenty and I should be able to make it work from here. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m laying down another drum track today, and if I have to split it, I&#8217;ll make sure to play through.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: ConnorSmith</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ConnorSmith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 00:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, its very common to do multiple takes of a song and choose the best &quot;verse 1&quot; and connect that to the best &quot;refrain 1&quot;... etc. 

Assuming you played to a click track, and assuming the parts are somewhat similar, this should be solvable somehow.  You should just be able to highlight what you want from section &quot;A&quot;, and drag it over to section &quot;B&quot;.  What sounds unnatural about your edits?  Sometimes just dragging the edges to the left/right a little bit can help a lot (see my note at the bottom, but if you can, send me some stereo bounces of a problem track.  I can probably help more once I hear it).

If you are going to record things in sections like that, I would recommend always playing &quot;a little extra&quot;.  For example, if you just want to re-record verse 1 of your song, record it, but play a few bars into the refrain.  That way, when you edit them together, there will be some leeway as to where the edit point is.  You have to keep a close ear out for the decay of drums (and cymbals especially).  Those will be the most noticeable &quot;glitches&quot; on edits.  If you get really stuck, you can cut off certain pieces and automate some reverb sends and mutes.... but that gets tricky.

You might want to send me some audio files of what you are doing (even just a stereo bounce of the parts running into each other).  Situations like these are very specific to the material that is being recorded.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, its very common to do multiple takes of a song and choose the best &#8220;verse 1&#8243; and connect that to the best &#8220;refrain 1&#8243;&#8230; etc. </p>
<p>Assuming you played to a click track, and assuming the parts are somewhat similar, this should be solvable somehow.  You should just be able to highlight what you want from section &#8220;A&#8221;, and drag it over to section &#8220;B&#8221;.  What sounds unnatural about your edits?  Sometimes just dragging the edges to the left/right a little bit can help a lot (see my note at the bottom, but if you can, send me some stereo bounces of a problem track.  I can probably help more once I hear it).</p>
<p>If you are going to record things in sections like that, I would recommend always playing &#8220;a little extra&#8221;.  For example, if you just want to re-record verse 1 of your song, record it, but play a few bars into the refrain.  That way, when you edit them together, there will be some leeway as to where the edit point is.  You have to keep a close ear out for the decay of drums (and cymbals especially).  Those will be the most noticeable &#8220;glitches&#8221; on edits.  If you get really stuck, you can cut off certain pieces and automate some reverb sends and mutes&#8230;. but that gets tricky.</p>
<p>You might want to send me some audio files of what you are doing (even just a stereo bounce of the parts running into each other).  Situations like these are very specific to the material that is being recorded.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>https://thestudiofiles.com/?p=26&#038;cpage=1#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 00:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess this sparks another question.  I don&#039;t know the details, but I love watching behind the scenes documentaries of bands making an album, and I know drummers will do different takes of different parts, and then pick and choose later.  What technique do the pros use?  There has to be natural blending and overlapping of starts/finishes if takes are being puzzled together.  I guess I never thought it would be that difficult to do that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess this sparks another question.  I don&#8217;t know the details, but I love watching behind the scenes documentaries of bands making an album, and I know drummers will do different takes of different parts, and then pick and choose later.  What technique do the pros use?  There has to be natural blending and overlapping of starts/finishes if takes are being puzzled together.  I guess I never thought it would be that difficult to do that.</p>
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		<title>By: ConnorSmith</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sounds like some tricky coding within the DAW to have that happen :P

For the few instances where we need stuff like this, I guess we will just have to work with the &quot;workarounds&quot;.  But yeah, try out the third option (aka wait until the end and then make new stereo bounces of both sides, and use the 2 stereo tracks to make the overlap).

And I&#039;d be pretty irked if DP got &quot;simultaneous double file play on single track&quot; before Pro Tools got automatic plug-in delay compensation :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like some tricky coding within the DAW to have that happen <img src="https://thestudiofiles.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif" alt=":P" class="wp-smiley" /> </p>
<p>For the few instances where we need stuff like this, I guess we will just have to work with the &#8220;workarounds&#8221;.  But yeah, try out the third option (aka wait until the end and then make new stereo bounces of both sides, and use the 2 stereo tracks to make the overlap).</p>
<p>And I&#8217;d be pretty irked if DP got &#8220;simultaneous double file play on single track&#8221; before Pro Tools got automatic plug-in delay compensation <img src="https://thestudiofiles.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley" /> </p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 19:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Option 4.  DP could simply allow you to overlap tracks with simultaneous play. 

Is that too much to ask?

Thanks for the ideas Connor.  I&#039;ll probably give them a go this weekend.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Option 4.  DP could simply allow you to overlap tracks with simultaneous play. </p>
<p>Is that too much to ask?</p>
<p>Thanks for the ideas Connor.  I&#8217;ll probably give them a go this weekend.</p>
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