Comments on: An Update from Digidesign on Pro Tools LE + Leopard compatibility

By: aaron

aaron — Sat, 24 May 2008 21:26:24 +0000

Hey fellow “PT WTF !?” So here we are waiting. I am stalling with Ableton myself. I agree with everyone in one way or the other. Yes, you can tinker with 7.4 and have it work. Actually I upgraded Leopard with my brother (distracted by remote features it offers) and never checked for compatibility. I did not have a prob till I used a plug in.
Anyway there is no point in forcing the issue. Just gonna have to wait it out.. the alternative is we tweak/ make it work, and be nervous the whole time wondering if something devastating is gonna happen.

By: ConnorSmith

ConnorSmith — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 20:59:38 +0000

I hear you there^^

I would definitely suggest that LE users (if you have the $ and desire) get Logic and start learning. For one, its a great program to have a grasp on, 2) who knows where LE is going in the next 12 months.

By: Michael Oyster

Michael Oyster — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 02:30:26 +0000

Regarding Byron’s comment’s. In the mid 1990′s I was a dedicated user of OPCODE Vision. I loved the product only to have the rug pulled out from under me when they went out of business. So I switched to Pro Tools because it was the “industry standard”. While I’ve heard good things about it I never gave Logic a second look because I don’t have time to learn every tool that comes out.

I’m concerned that Digidesign may not have the resources and/or the business relationship with Apple to maintain the LE product in a timely manner. It’s beyond me why they didn’t prepare the LE release while OS 10.5 was still in beta.

After my experience with OPCODE and my recent experience with Pro Tools LE on OS 10.5, I may give Logic a second look.

By: ConnorSmith

ConnorSmith — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:32:16 +0000

A lot of people feel that elastic audio in LE was a quick “throw” to the LE users to keep them happy while Pro Tools got a revamp.

I think Digidesign knows that the status quo surrounding DAWs is changing very quickly. Let’s see what happens with this release (which will be a dot release to 7.4) and then 7.5.

Rumors are also floating around that Pro Tools version 8 is well underway. I wouldn’t give up hope until we see what that has in store for us.

By: Byron

Byron — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:00:22 +0000

It seems that from the comments here that people are happy to try and work around these problems, but let me draw your attention to the bigger picture here.

Google the AVID stock price & set the range to MAX.

Look into the future and tell me what you see. It doesn’t look good to me.

The best thing that could happen to Digi right now is to get bought out by Apple and integrated into Logic. The entire PT platform is bloated, the hardware is of questionable quality and the 3rd party options are slim, Digi’s corporate culture and attitude towards their users sucks (at this post indicates), the price point is too high for what you get, and so on.

Don’t get me wrong – I use Pro-Tools LE & HD everyday – but the only thing that makes me stay is the fact that it’s ‘standard’ platform for the audio industry. Not for long I’d wager.

Logic has it’s problems, but at least Apple appears to be more responsive to their users and are making their platform better. Things like elastic audio in PT, while cool, seem more like a pitch to subdue loss of users to Ableton, rather than actually improve on the core reasons most people use PT – record, edit & mix. I’d happily lose elastic audio if it means I can have a stable PT for 10.5 sooner rather than later.

Am I the only one who thinks/feels this is the case?

By: ConnorSmith

ConnorSmith — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 03:50:08 +0000

Chris –
Amen to that. I find their website very hard to navigate (and the search bar is inadequate as well)

By: Chris

Chris — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:33:05 +0000

I’ve got to say, in terms of having an organised/logical to navigate downloads/support section, the Digidesign website is one of the worst I have come across!

By: Damon Sink

Damon Sink — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 02:33:34 +0000

That’s great info, Michael. Thanks!
Sorry that you had to go to the well twice to earn that wisdom, but it will probably help somebody else.

We’ll suggest it to Digidesign

–Damon

By: Michael Oyster

Michael Oyster — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 00:11:28 +0000

OK, this worked. THANKS!!!

By the way I wouldn’t have made a posting without at least trying the latest version which I obtained from
Digidesign | Support | Support & Downloads

After reading your posting I went to:

DigiDesign Products | ProTools & MPowered Plugins | XPand

This location had a more recent version (labelled Leopard Update) which solved the problem.

Digidesign might want to make both locations consistent to reduce customer confusion.

By: ConnorSmith

ConnorSmith — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:06:44 +0000

Michael –
You can fix the “yellow” versions of Xpand, Strike, Hybrid (etc).

Just go to digidesign.com and download the latest version of those instruments.

By: Michael Oyster

Michael Oyster — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:52:37 +0000

I have a MacBook with OS 10.5.1 and installed LE 7.4 CS3.

While this works fine with very simple projects and I’m able to fire up the “Filtered Dream” demo I would urge caution in relying on this setup for any paying complex projects that have deadlines.

For example, I’m unable to use the xPand! plugin because the plugin control panel comes up yellow and is illegible.

It’s unfortunate because the primary intended application for this setup (along with an MBox) is portable computer synthesis for live performance. Because my MacBook can not be downgraded to OS 10.4 I’m stuck.

Perhaps I might have better luck with 3rd party plugins but it’s hit or miss. I bought the MacBook/MBOX in December and all I’ve gotten for my effort is rapidly depreciating capital tied up and no results.

By: ConnorSmith

ConnorSmith — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 01:51:36 +0000

Jason –

Your best bet is to upgrade to Pro Tools 7.4 and downgrade to OS 10.5.1. People are having the best luck with that setup (also, what model of Apple are you using)

If you just bought 7.3 (in the last few months) you can register it on Digidesign.com to get a free amnesty upgrade to 7.4 (and I would suggest using 7.4cs2 if you can, even though cs3 is out)

Good luck!

By: Jason

Jason — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 15:20:14 +0000

I recently installed 7.3 on my 10.5.2 OS. Pro Tools software seems to work but i cant get it to communicate with my project mix i/o. Anyone know any tricks to maybe coax it into working? Anyone have any idea when Digidesign will release the Update for this? Im running m-powerd.

By: ConnorSmith

ConnorSmith — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:43:54 +0000

Yeah most people with good luck on Leopard have done clean wipe and installs.

I’ll stop talking about it now, so I don’t jinx your setup. Good luck!

By: Chris

Chris — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:26:55 +0000

I’ve got 7.4 LE CS3 / 10.5.2 working on both my Intel iMac and my old G4 PowerBook with pretty much no problems at all!

I’ve no idea what’s gone right, the only thing I can think of is that they have relatively fresh installs of 10.5, prior to which I wiped the HDs, so maybe the fact that there’s never been any sort of PT/Tiger installation on them before has got something to do with it (ok I know that’s more thinking like a Windows user, thank God I don’t have to deal with the registry ;).

Oh well, am not complaining!